Both are widely available; theres about $50-$70 difference (since I found a Classic in clearance, make that $100 if there still are some left).
Im wondering if the extra watts KA talks about are really useful for the moderate use I will be making of this, or am I just paying extra bucks for the sexy two-tone stripe? I expect to be making cookies and such, but not much bread or pizza dough.
Can someone help me out here? Really would appreciate some knowledgable or at least humorous input.. 🙂
I have the same question so I cant be of much help. Do both classic and ultra power have the arm that tilts up? I know that the high end models have a stationary arm and the bowl lifts up to meet the beater. So my question is, Which is better, stationary arm or tilting arm? Im inclined toward the tilting arm. Seems easier to work with.
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> > > > Lorna > > lo…@odyssee.net > > Lorna, > > I have the same question so I cant be of much help. Do both classic and > ultra power have the arm that tilts up? I know that the high end models > have a stationary arm and the bowl lifts up to meet the beater. So my > question is, Which is better, stationary arm or tilting arm? Im inclined > toward the tilting arm. Seems easier to work with. > > Shaun
If at all possible, pop for the 5 qt mixer instead. We bought the 4.5 several years ago, and wish we had spent the extra 90 bucks on the bigger one.
If you arent going to do a lot of bread, the K45 series will do nicely (thats the tilting head), but for serious breadmaking, the K5 series is a must. Its fussier to work with, but the rigidity pays off when you are kneading heavy dough week after week. — Julian Thomas (and/or if appropriate, Mary Jane Thomas) j…@epix.net In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! ————————————————– All wiyht. Rho sritched mg kegtops awound?
>Im looking at getting a KitchenAid mixer (4.5qt) this weekend, and am >wondering if theres any functional difference between the “classic” and the >”ultra power” models.
>Both are widely available; theres about $50-$70 difference (since I found a >Classic in clearance, make that $100 if there still are some left).
>Im wondering if the extra watts KA talks about are really useful for the >moderate use I will be making of this, or am I just paying extra bucks for the >sexy two-tone stripe? I expect to be making cookies and such, but not much >bread or pizza dough.
>Can someone help me out here? Really would appreciate some knowledgable or at >least humorous input.. 🙂
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Actually as a former Bakery type of Cook (no Im not a chef and no I dont sell the things, but I would have to say that the one with the bowl raising up to the beater elements is more desirable, due to the ease of use, and lessening of a mess when working with thinner batters like those you would use for Crepes or waffles, as you will not have a problem with the batter dripping back on to the machine and all over the counter top. I have been wanting to purchase one of those also, but I need to replace my flakey oven first. (it doesnt keep a steady enough temperature) The extra power might be usefull for cookie dough as some doughs do get pretty thick, in fact I think that I made a few doughs that would fight our larger mixers (think 40# bowl when empty) when they start out. I realize that you may not prepare really large quantities of doughs, and bread dough isnt that rough with Kitchen Aids Dough hook, so I would choose the Mixer with the bowl that has the size that I would need for my largest recipe when done for a normal portion. If you regularly have 30 – 40 people over, Id get the larger bowl. Also if you plan to get the attachments for the nose of the mixer, Id go with the extra power as cheese can be a real pain to shread (it can kill the mixer if you force it to do too much) or if you plan to grind your own sausage id get the bigger motor. Again if you dont save you money 🙂 and make more cookies!!!
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The atationary-head models offer higher power, and are actually easier to work with than the tilting-head models in many respects. For one thing, if youre working on a counter that has cabinets above, the head may not tilt back all the way without hitting the cabinets. Really a pain. Also, the stationary-head models allow you to put a bowl of ice water (or hot water, as need be) underneath the working bowl. Nice when youre whipping a lot of cream or beating a lot of egg whites (chilling helps), or if youre making something like mashed potatoes and you want to help keep them hot.
Unless youre really strapped, if youre gonna invest in a KitchenAid, go with the bigger 5-quart (i.e. stationary head) models.
Dan, Dan, Dan, chilling is wrong for egg whites; theyre supposed to be at room temp. I know your fingers just got carried away, and the parentheses got carried past the phrase theyre modifying….tsk. tsk.
Unless youre really strapped, if youre gonna invest in a >KitchenAid, go with the bigger 5-quart (i.e. stationary head) >models.
Thats what I say, too, not that anyone asked. I have a 5-quart, 325 watt and love it to bits.
Spring for the K5 Professional (350 watts)if you can. I bought mine through Bridge in New York City for $295, which included shipping to California. Best price I could find. It will last a lifetime. Cooks Illustrated recently rated the stationary mixers and the KitchenAid K5SS was rated the best. Check out the article; it is more interesting that Consumer Reports.
> Spring for the K5 Professional (350 watts)if you can. I bought mine > through Bridge in New York City for $295, which included shipping to > California. Best price I could find. It will last a lifetime. Cooks > Illustrated recently rated the stationary mixers and the KitchenAid K5SS > was rated the best. Check out the article; it is more interesting that > Consumer Reports.
> P.S. Im still getting used to having a single paddle, and not two beaters. > What do you do if you have two kids and only 1 beater to lick!?
My hubby showed up after work on Friday with the 4.5qt Ultra, and I love it! It also made my mind up pretty quickly when I saw the box in the living room. What a sweetheart! Definately a keeper…
Anyway, to respond to various comments I have just read today (and excuse the delay, the news server was throttling…), I am not into making bread (yet), but have made bunches of cookies so far. Works great! Im hoping to try pizza dough later this aft, if I can take a break from work.
Theres plenty of room to tilt the head up even when working under the cupboards. Yes, I have the tilt model – I was worried Id have fits (or fights) with the bowl lifter style, actually. When Ive used stand mixers before, they were tilt-heads as well, so its familiar territory. Guess Ill wrap flexible freezer packs around the bowl if I need the bowl chilled.
A thank you to all: I wouldnt have bought a KA were it not for the strong recommendations of rfcers. They are expensive, and lets face it, you can get a Sunbeam for half or even one third the price. But after reading DejaNews, and the comments in rfc and rfe, plus the wonderful email I received, there was no choice. A very sincere thank you, and you should all get commissions from KA!
One kid gets the beater and the other the bowl. Switch off so each has a chance. Problem solved.
Those beaters are big. Id say designate half for one kid and half for the other. Save the bowl for yourself.
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>The atationary-head models offer higher power, and are actually >easier to work with than the tilting-head models in many respects. >For one thing, if youre working on a counter that has cabinets >above, the head may not tilt back all the way without hitting the >cabinets. Really a pain. Also, the stationary-head models >allow you to put a bowl of ice water (or hot water, as need be)
Im not quite sure we are answering your question, but I absolutely agree that the the stationary head models, though more expensive, are the way to go. The lack of an articulating joint assures a longer life span than the tilting head variety. And at the price they charge, you dont want to be buying one of these every couple of years.
The only difficulty I have had with my stationary head machine was with the adjustment of the clearance between the beater/ wisk and the bowl. The beater and the whisk arent the same size so changing the clearance frequently was was a pain. I found that simply lifting the bowl a bit once or twice during whisking takes care of the problem. I love this machine and Im sure it will last longer than I do.
>Im looking at getting a KitchenAid mixer (4.5qt) this weekend, and am >wondering if theres any functional difference between the “classic” and the >”ultra power” models. > >Both are widely available; theres about $50-$70 difference (since I found a >Classic in clearance, make that $100 if there still are some left). > >Im wondering if the extra watts KA talks about are really useful for the >moderate use I will be making of this, or am I just paying extra bucks for the >sexy two-tone stripe? I expect to be making cookies and such, but not much >bread or pizza dough. > >Can someone help me out here? Really would appreciate some knowledgable or at >least humorous input.. 🙂 > >Lorna >lo…@odyssee.net >
Well, I think youre paying extra bucks for the two-tone stripe. I bought the 5qt. (next step upt) mixer in 1970 and have used it heavily at home and in three different restaurants and it has always worked beautifully-whether it was thin cake batter or pizza dough. And back then there was no mention of watts-so I dont know if it is 300 or 350. The point is that if youre only going to making cookies and such and not maxing out its capabilities-I dont see whether 250 for the Classic or 300 for the Ultra Power makes any difference. I believe it is largely a marketing tool. Notice how Eureka and Hoover are both trying to impress us with larger numbers for their vacuum cleaners-one uses amps and the other uses something called “cleaning efficiency” (which always conveniently yields a bigger number).
The bottom line is that if its a Kitchen Aid its a great mixer. A friend just bought a new Ultra (4.5) for $280 while the classic is about $249. Good Luck.
> > >The atationary-head models offer higher power, and are actually > >easier to work with than the tilting-head models in many respects. >
> >Unless youre really strapped, if youre gonna invest in a > >KitchenAid, go with the bigger 5-quart (i.e. stationary head) > >models. > > >– > >Dan Masi >
> Im not quite sure we are answering your question, but I absolutely > agree that the the stationary head models, though more expensive, are > the way to go. The lack of an articulating joint assures a longer > life span than the tilting head variety. And at the price they > charge, you dont want to be buying one of these every couple of > years. > >
> Steve Hanagan > sh…@accessus.net > A timely thread even though I just joined it. The old Oster Kitchen Center is giving out and the replacement will be a Kitchen Aid.
OK, now we know what to buy, so tell us WHERE to buy. I remember a question about this many months ago. There is a place in NY that sells them cheaper than anyone. Since I did not need one, I did not pay much attention to it. I think is a restaurant supply store or some such business. Anyone know who it may be?
I bought one for my husband last weekend at Richs in Greenville, South Carolina. It was $219 on sale, with a 10% off coupon and an extra mixing bowl as a bonus gift. I was so excited to find an Ultra Power for that price! I would have paid that for a refurbished one! BTW, that price was also good at Lazarus stores.
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If you live in Southern California, you might try Target or Linens n Things. An even better deal is $249 for the KitchenAid heavy duty mixer at Price Club/ Costco.
I did some shopping today. The classic in WalMart is $177. At Lechmere on sale it is $169.
The heavy duty in Lechemere and Service Merchandise is $249, the Professional Series was $279. The Special Edition was $319. The SE has a 350 watt motor and a coupon that you send away for a second SS bowl engraved with your name (or whatever). Not a bad deal considering that you are getting a more powerful unit and the extra bowl for ab out the price of just the bowl.
> >P.S. Im still getting used to having a single paddle, and not two beaters. >What do you do if you have two kids and only 1 beater to lick!?
One gets the spatula (rubber scraping tool) and the other the mixer paddle – I make sure theres a more or less equal amount of batter on the utensils. 😉
>Well, I think youre paying extra bucks for the two-tone stripe. I >bought the 5qt. (next step upt) mixer in 1970 and have used it heavily >at home and in three different restaurants and it has always worked >beautifully-whether it was thin cake batter or pizza dough. And back >then there was no mention of watts-so I dont know if it is 300 or >350. The point is that if youre only going to making cookies and such >and not maxing out its capabilities-I dont see whether 250 for the >Classic or 300 for the Ultra Power makes any difference. I believe it >is largely a marketing tool. Notice how Eureka and Hoover are both >trying to impress us with larger numbers for their vacuum cleaners-one >uses amps and the other uses something called “cleaning efficiency” >(which always conveniently yields a bigger number). > >The bottom line is that if its a Kitchen Aid its a great mixer. A >friend just bought a new Ultra (4.5) for $280 while the classic is >about $249. Good Luck. > >WL >
Sorry folks-I goofed. The 4.5 qt. UP has been selling here in Chicago on sale for $199 while the Classic went for $169. These are obviously heavily discounted Christmas prices though-and were only for a week at a time. But if you can swing it-go for the 5qt. Its a better design-just like their (Hobarts) commercial line.
At Montgomery Ward, they are selling the Ultra for $199 and you get a free pouring guard with purchase.
Our local (Santa Clara, CA) Costco has the Heavy Duty (325 watts, bowl moves instead of head, 5 qt) for 249.00. Macys had the Ultra (300 watts, head moves instead of bowl, 4.5 qt) for the same price. If the HD had been $50 more expensive, I may have gone for the Ultra. I think that the ~8% power increase is less important than the bowl size and whether the head or bowl moves. I dont think I would be happy with a 250 watt model, I tend to make some fairly heavy doughs.
> Im trying to determine what the difference is between the K5SS and the KSM5. I understand that they are both 325 watts and have 5 qt bowls. Would the difference be the accessories? Ive been pricing them by phone today. Sams Club has the K5SSWH for $259 and Kitchen Collection has the KSM5 for $299 plus a coupon for 10% off, so its $270. Anyone know why the products seem similar but the numbers are different? Camillesymp…@enter.net
I inquired of KitchenAid regarding the power because we knew we wanted to get some of the attachments. I was assured that although there is a little difference, it really is not significant. The woman I spoke with has a lower powered one than mine and says her attachments work just fine.
The only difference between the two is down to power output: the Classic has a 250W motor, while the Plus has a 275W motor. On the surface, the KSM95ER Ultra Power and KSM100PS Ultra Power Plus are identical to the Classic Models. The real difference can be found in the motors. Both models have 300W motors.
Dan, Dan, Dan, chilling is wrong for egg whites; theyre supposed to be at room temp. I know your fingers just got carried away, and the parentheses got carried past the phrase theyre modifying….tsk. tsk.
> > >The atationary-head models offer higher power, and are actually > >easier to work with than the tilting-head models in many respects. >
> In article
Actually as a former Bakery type of Cook (no Im not a chef and no I dont sell the things, but I would have to say that the one with the bowl raising up to the beater elements is more desirable, due to the ease of use, and lessening of a mess when working with thinner batters like those you would use for Crepes or waffles, as you will not have a problem with the batter dripping back on to the machine and all over the counter top. I have been wanting to purchase one of those also, but I need to replace my flakey oven first. (it doesnt keep a steady enough temperature) The extra power might be usefull for cookie dough as some doughs do get pretty thick, in fact I think that I made a few doughs that would fight our larger mixers (think 40# bowl when empty) when they start out. I realize that you may not prepare really large quantities of doughs, and bread dough isnt that rough with Kitchen Aids Dough hook, so I would choose the Mixer with the bowl that has the size that I would need for my largest recipe when done for a normal portion. If you regularly have 30 – 40 people over, Id get the larger bowl. Also if you plan to get the attachments for the nose of the mixer, Id go with the extra power as cheese can be a real pain to shread (it can kill the mixer if you force it to do too much) or if you plan to grind your own sausage id get the bigger motor. Again if you dont save you money 🙂 and make more cookies!!!
>Im wondering if the extra watts KA talks about are really useful for the >moderate use I will be making of this, or am I just paying extra bucks for the >sexy two-tone stripe? I expect to be making cookies and such, but not much >bread or pizza dough.
KitchenAid Classic vs. Artisan Mini: The REAL Differences Between These Mixers
FAQ
What is KitchenAid ultra power?
Which KitchenAid has the most powerful motor?
What is the best KitchenAid product?
What is the difference between an artisan KitchenAid and a regular KitchenAid?
What is the difference between KitchenAid Ultra Power and classic mixer?
The only difference between Classic mixer and Ultra Power is the amperage of the motor. The KitchenAid Ultra power has a higher wattage wattage than Classic having 1/2 hp compared to 3/4 hp – that’s 25% more power . The quality of the mixing motion is even identical as they both have tilt-head design.
What is the difference between KitchenAid Classic & Classic Plus mixers?
KitchenAid Classic Plus: In the past, Classic mixers had 250-watt motors, and Classic Plus mixers had 275-watt motors. But since 2014, both have 275-watt motors. The only difference is that Classic Plus mixers are only available in white. KitchenAid Artisan: This 5-quart tilt-head mixer is available in over 25 colors.
What is the difference between KitchenAid Classic Plus & KitchenAid artisan?
The only difference is that Classic Plus mixers are only available in white. KitchenAid Artisan: This 5-quart tilt-head mixer is available in over 25 colors. It has a polished stainless steel bowl with a handle and a 325-watt motor, making it more powerful than the Classic models.
What is the difference between KitchenAid artisan and Ultra Power?
While the KitchenAid attachments present in these two models are the same, we noticed that the wattage of the Artisan is 325, while the Ultra Power uses only 300. It’s also noticeable that the KitchenAid Ultra Power stand mixer has a 4.5-quart capacity, while the Artisan series has 5 quarts.